tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416569471509328536.post4134809144788780229..comments2023-12-21T05:47:40.228-08:00Comments on Dual and Divided Nature: The Poison of ReligionHarryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12939002146158397355noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416569471509328536.post-10377497077565542752007-08-05T09:38:00.000-07:002007-08-05T09:38:00.000-07:00Yes, I can relate to that "spiritual comment". So ...Yes, I can relate to that "spiritual comment". So superficial. <BR/>I'm not sure if I've reached some sort of finality myself. Still working through so much in my mind. Sometimes I feel like an atheistic approach is a little to convenient, too easy, but that's mostly due to my own upbringing and whatever attachments I still have with it. <BR/>I'm certainly done with the bullshit of religion, though. And I feel frustrated about the notion of a God that is not accountable to anyone or anything. Carte blanche to wreak whatever mayhem He wants and his pesky minions scurry around his toes waving their hands saying thank you.Harry Tournemillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364647829612042665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416569471509328536.post-50479352654973419172007-08-04T17:27:00.000-07:002007-08-04T17:27:00.000-07:00hey dude, floated over here and read, interesting ...hey dude, floated over here and read, interesting stuff.<BR/><BR/>I kind of came to my own finality before my kid was born, and getting sick of my urge to punch people who say "dude, I'm not religious, I'm like, spiritual though". Argh.<BR/><BR/>For me, I don't want to teach my kid what to think, but how to think. I think it'll bring her to a good place in the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416569471509328536.post-62717664555096701782007-07-22T17:52:00.000-07:002007-07-22T17:52:00.000-07:00Thanks for posting, Glenn. And no worries about th...Thanks for posting, Glenn. And no worries about the length of the post. Brevity is not always necessary. <BR/><BR/>There is merit to some of your commnents. Clearly human nature reduces any of the idealistic qualities of religion into a muddled mix of pantomime and manifest destiny. I share your frustration re: organized religion as a whole. <BR/><BR/>But at some point we need to take a much close look at the diety we are trying to worship, their involvement in any religion (if there is actually any), and what exactly this deity is. If religion is man made, then all ascriptions of any diety must be too. Our entire knowledge of God stems from human collaboration...and agenda. The way we describe God, the anthropomorphisms, the qualities we give him. It's all based on human rationale, and need, and I find a lot of it bogus. Mostly because it is left as a bumper sticker tag than a concrete comment. I mean try to define some them, for the sake of Pete. <BR/><BR/>Of course, you're right about the "starting point" of people's beliefs. Whether or not humans start off good or bad (The Fall idea). I take great contention with some of these notions, the guilt attachments, the pressure to be something you may very well not be. But I guess that should be left for another time. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for posting.Harry Tournemillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364647829612042665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416569471509328536.post-38168610681353800472007-07-16T11:37:00.000-07:002007-07-16T11:37:00.000-07:00God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your li...God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life.<BR/><BR/>Just kidding.<BR/><BR/>I think that the biggest difficulty that any religion faces is the people that practice it. Pick a diety, and they seem pretty okay, but fill in the worshiping masses, and somehow the message of the diety get's corrupted. <BR/><BR/>Too much evil has been done in the name of any diety to really be able to stand up for any organized religion. Again, I would credit this to the ability for us mere mortals to corrupt any message from a higher power.<BR/><BR/>I wonder how much of the argument for or against religions comes down to the core question of "Are we as humans intrinsically good or bad?" If we are basically good at the get go, then it's likely that religion corrupts the people. If we are naturally bad, then it's us that corrupts any sort of religion.<BR/><BR/>On the whole, I'm fed up with organized religion. The thought of having to do some sort of ritual because that's how it's been done in the past annoys me. If there is meaning in an action, let's continue the action or routine for that reason, and that reason alone. If that's why we do something, then we should be open to refining that action as well.<BR/><BR/>Arg, sorry for the long post. The article was very thought provoking, and as you say, any discussion is better than ignoring the problem.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09213726648036224045noreply@blogger.com